Discussion in ' Hydrodynamics and Aerodynamics ' started by revintageMidterm exam 2018 23, Log in or Sign up. Boat Design Net. Wanted an easy tool for finding out needed foil area for a chosen take-off speed, for my planned wave piercing hydrofoil tri project, Windknife.
The formula could eventually be adjusted to get better ballpark figures. Any suggestions? Last edited: Sep 24, BlueBellSep 23, Why not find out; search Vellinga and metric in this forum. Awaiting suggestions from someone of those who has the knowledge, to see if the figures are realistic. Ohhhhh, yes, the figures are realistic. As mentioned earlier, the drag also has to be considered.
Or, given enough thrust, you might stay foilborne, but would probably be slower. Unfortunately, you need more than just one simple equation to determine whether or not that will happen.
Doug HalseySep 25, Doug, I am aware of the simplification. But for me, the power needed to get the expected lift is about drag. But maybe this to simplify things to much? Anywhere near your IRL figures? Revintage, I am familiar with Ray's book, I have read it.
It's very basic but helpful to a newbie. You don't need to adjust the formula. You need to overcome the drag of your vessel. If you can make 6-knots maximum without foils, then design for a take-off speed of 5-knots as you'll have the additional drag of the foils and struts to overcome.
BlueBellSep 25, Pushing for the highest take off speed will make for smaller, higher speed foils. Why would you want to minimize take-off speed? I want the highest take-off speed possible, even if it means adding flaps. Presumably, you would want to be able to fly as soon as possible i. That's not always optimal though. Ah, multi-purpose. I gotcha. Two different, interchangeable inverted T's then. Low speed and high speed.The NACA airfoil section is created from a camber line and a thickness distribution plotted perpendicular to the camber line.
The equation for the camber line is split into sections either side of the point of maximum camber position P. In order to calculate the position of the final airfoil envelope later the gradient of the camber line is also required. The equations are:. Using the equations above, for a given value of x it is possible to calculate the camber line position Yc, the gradient of the camber line and the thickness. The position of the upper and lower surface can then be calculated perpendicular to the camber line.
The most obvious way to to plot the airfoil is to iterate through equally spaced values of x calclating the upper and lower surface coordinates. While this works, the points are more widely spaced around the leading edge where the curvature is greatest and flat sections can be seen on the plots.
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The plotter was first published on www. It went through a number updates, often requested by users. When the search and comparison functions were added I decided it would be better as a stand alone web site and AirfoilTools. Airfoil Tools Search airfoils Tweet. You have 0 airfoils loaded.
Your Reynold number range is 50, to 1, Airfoil Tools Tools to search, compare and plot airfoils. No content or images on this web site should be reproduced without permission. Airfoil search Search for airfoils available on the web or in online databases, filtering by thickness and camber with preview images of the airfoil sections.
Download the dat file data in various formats or use the dat file data in the tools. Links to the original data source for more information. View the airfoil details page with polar diagrams for a range of Reynolds numbers. Airfoil plotter View and plot a full size plan of the airfoil to your chord width.
The camber, thickness can be adjusted and the pitch set to allow for wing angle of attack, wash out or wind turbine blade angle. Airfoil comparison Plots two or more airfoils on the same plan for shape comparison.
The plan can be downloaded or printed full size for better resolution. Compare lift and drag polar diagrams for a range of Reynolds numbers. My airfoils Add your own airfoils so they can be used in the tools.
Paste the dat file data into a form and the airfoil will be available to use in the drop down menus. There are many sources of airfoil data or the sections can be generated using tools. Currently the airfoils are only stored in your browser session and will need to be added when the browser is re-opened NACA 4 digit airfoil generator Generate NACA 4 digit airfoil sections to your own specification and use them in the airfoil comparison and plotter.
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Modify access date. Scientific Online Calculator.Fitting foils to powerboats is all the rage, but how do they work and why is foiling back in fashion? Foiling refers to the use of hydrofoils attached to the hull of fast boats, which provides additional lift at planing speeds — often enough to lift the hull completely clear of the water.
The enemy of fast boats is the amount of effort required to push them through the water. Planing boats go some way to addressing this by rising up over their own bow wave and skimming across the surface, but the stern sections are still immersed, creating significant hydrodynamic drag. It follows that if you can lift the boat completely clear of the water, hydrodynamic drag is only acting on the foils themselves and the sterngear that propels and steers it. Lifting the boat clear of the surface can reduce the disturbance of waves, smoothing the ride, but only up to a point.
Foils work in a similar way to aircraft wings. In simple terms, as they move through the water they deflect the flow, which exerts a force on the foil.
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If that force is upward, the faster they move, the greater the lift. Because water is much denser than air — almost times, in fact. Far from it. He had a prototype operating on Lake Maggiore soon after. British boat designer John Thornycroft followed up with a series of scale models featuring stepped hulls and a single foil, and by had a full-scale 22ft prototype running.
During WWII, the German military developed a tonne foiling mine layer that was tested in the Baltic at speeds of up to 47 knots.
By the early s, the first commercial hydrofoil ferry was running between Italy and Switzerland and a decade later, a private hydrofoil yacht featured in the Bond movie Thunderball. This made berthing tricky and increased the draught.
They were also costly to construct, vulnerable to damage and difficult to power, as the propellers of conventional shaftdrives would be clear of the water once foiling. Lastly, although hydrofoils were often more efficient than monohulls, high-speed cats could usually match the efficiency without the drawbacks. Technology has overcome many of the shortfalls of older systems. They are far more efficient and can be retracted, solving the berthing and draught issues.Ride 3 wakes back!
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